The meeting was opened
by the Chairman at 12.50.
Those
present. East Anglian
Lancastrian Midland North
Apologies. None.
Minutes of meeting held on
Under items reserved. A discussion took place as to the reasons
the minutes of the meeting had not been signed with the Lancastrian
explaining the error. It was agreed that the minutes be amended
to read :- Proposed by Lancastrian and
not as originally stated
The acceptance of the amended minutes, proposed
by Lancastrian seconded by OES Wales. Voting
6 in favour with 2 abstentions.
Minutes of meeting held on 13th of April 2003.
Proposed by Lancastrian Seconded East Anglian.
Passed by the meeting.
Matters arising. The Vice Chairman confirmed
that the Minutes were an accurate account.
No apology had been received from the secretary of the South Western
club following the request by the Scottish club that he should
make one.
Correspondence. A letter from Mrs Sculthorp
on behalf of the delegates at the judging seminar requested a
refund of the course fees as the paper work had not been sent
to the K.C.
The vice Chairman told the meeting that the relevant green form
had now been completed and sent to the K.C. who had accepted it.
Updates to some judges details would be passed to the judging
list co-ordinator.
A letter from Mr Ray Owen, in which he stated he would be prepared
to continue as the Breed Liaison rep if elected.
At this point the Chairman requested that members wishing to speak
should state which club they were representing. He reminded the
meeting that all views expressed should be that of their club
not their personal view. Mr Owen asked if the members could also
give their names as not all members new the other members. He
also offered to produce delegate tags for future meetings. This
was accepted by the chairman and the meeting.
Rules and Regulations. Members had received
the draft proposal from Chairman.
The
The Chairman started to read through the new rules. One proposed
change was to discourage clubs from leaving and then rejoining
when an item of concern to them was to be discussed.
Due to the time it would take to go through all the new changes
is was agreed by the meeting that the draft be discussed
by the clubs in detail. The clubs would then send in their views
and any changes to be drafted into a revised document.
At this point the Lancastrian expressed concern at the short period
the new officers would serve before re-election (some 6 months).
The South western proposed that a vote be taken to delay future
elections to give some stability to the Breed Council.
The Lancastrian suggested that the Treasurer Secretary and Vice Chairman hold office until the AGM in 2005 with the Chairman and Assistant Secretary being elected in 2006.
The
South Eastern proposed the suggestion which was seconded by the
East Anglian.
The following vote 8 in favour none against.
Judging lists.
A3 List.
A discussion about the changes to the A3 criteria,
with agreement that the changes do seem to be working.
The
It was also agreed that the breed councils judging list criteria
be sent to the dog press for publication. The Lancastrian proposed
that Mrs Clarice Masterson be asked to act as the publicity agent
for the breed council.
The South Eastern asked if we could go direct to Dog World. It
was agreed that the secretary would contact the breed note reporters
and Dog World.
It was also suggested that the criteria, judges
lists and minutes of breed council meetings be posted on the internet.
The South Eastern asked if the former secretary had been asked
for the green assessment forms. The Vice Chairman stated that
she had telephoned the secretary to check that the paperwork was
correct. She had sent in the forms completed by herself.
The midlands asked if the delegates had been given two forms.
The Vice Chairman said there had not been a second form. The Lancastrian
produced a copy of the latest A2 procedure. OES Scotland ask
if the breed council could rectify the problem.
The secretary will write to Mrs Wendy Sculthorp
and confirm that the K.C. now has all the paperwork.
The Lancastrian stated that Mr Pete Coggins
had sent his judging C.V.. to
all breed clubs but had not passed the breed specifics which is
required to progress to the A3 list. The secretary is to write
and ask for a copy for the breed council.
It was proposed that Mrs Val Zaza resume
the responsibility for the judges list and that the secretary
would ask that judges send copies of their latest C V. to him.
He would liaise with Mrs Zaza to check the A2 A3 criteria.
Clubs were reminded that the K.C. only required their C lists
with the annual returns. The
Auditor.
Mr David Sutton proposed by the Lancastrian seconded by the South
Eastern accepted by the meeting.
Items Reserved.
The Lancastrian proposed that Mr Ray Owen be elected as breed
liaison to the K.C. seconded by the East Anglian.
Accepted by the meeting.
It was proposed that judges should not be allowed to accept C.C
appointments in less than a two year period. Mr Ray Owen suggested
using the bread liaison meeting to raise this matter. The motion
was proposed by OES Wales and seconded by the South Western. All
members were in favour and Mr Owen will raise the issue at his
next meeting.
OES wales requested that consideration
be given to a Champions class. OES Scotland suggested that the
Champions class would not go forward for the CC. The South Western
thought the winner should challenge the best dog and bitch. South
Eastern thought this would demean the C.C if the C.C winners were
then beaten by the Champion class winner for best in show. OES
Scotland felt we needed to find a way around these problems. The
South Eastern thought the Champion dog and bitch should go forward
for the C.C.
The secretary had received a telephone request for people to man
the OES stand at Discover Dogs. The dates are the 22nd 23rd of
November and the East Anglian agreed to co-ordinate the arrangements.
The south Eastern said they would go back to their committee and
see if they could help. Mrs Ronnie Burns will act as the contact.
OES Wales requested that the breed council set up a health survey.
They had a sample form which is used by other breeds and this
could be amended to suit our breed.
It was agreed that a letter would be sent to Dr Sampson asking
if he would accept our breed and letters would then be sent to
the member clubs for their input.
A.O.B.
The South Western suggested that clubs should try to maintain
continuity in their delegates who attend.
The secretary gave out his new contact details with a
e-mail address for breed council matters.