O.E.S. Breed Council

MINUTES OF THE MEETING

Held

Sunday October 12th 2003


The meeting was opened by the Chairman at 12.50.

Those present. East Anglian Lancastrian Midland North Western OES Scotland OES Wales South Eastern South Western Ray Owen Breed Liaison Rep and Mr Mike Vines K.C. Member.


Apologies. None.

Minutes of meeting held on
20th October 2002.
Under items reserved. A discussion took place as to the reasons the minutes of the meeting had not been signed with the Lancastrian explaining the error. It was agreed that the minutes be amended to read :- Proposed by Lancastrian and not as originally stated
Scotland. That the criteria be reviewed in Twelve months time Proposed Lancastrian seconded OES Scotland.

The acceptance of the amended minutes, proposed by Lancastrian seconded by OES Wales. Voting 6 in favour with 2 abstentions.

Minutes of meeting held on 13th of April 2003.

Proposed by Lancastrian Seconded East Anglian.
Passed by the meeting.

Matters arising. The Vice Chairman confirmed that the Minutes were an accurate account.
No apology had been received from the secretary of the South Western club following the request by the Scottish club that he should make one.

Correspondence. A letter from Mrs Sculthorp on behalf of the delegates at the judging seminar requested a refund of the course fees as the paper work had not been sent to the K.C.
The vice Chairman told the meeting that the relevant green form had now been completed and sent to the K.C. who had accepted it.
Updates to some judges details would be passed to the judging list co-ordinator.
A letter from Mr Ray Owen, in which he stated he would be prepared to continue as the Breed Liaison rep if elected.

At this point the Chairman requested that members wishing to speak should state which club they were representing. He reminded the meeting that all views expressed should be that of their club not their personal view. Mr Owen asked if the members could also give their names as not all members new the other members. He also offered to produce delegate tags for future meetings. This was accepted by the chairman and the meeting.

Rules and Regulations. Members had received the draft proposal from Chairman.
The
Midland club said there was no comparison between old and new which made it difficult to compare. The chairman told the meeting that some items had been move to make the rules more orderly.

The Chairman started to read through the new rules. One proposed change was to discourage clubs from leaving and then rejoining when an item of concern to them was to be discussed.
Due to the time it would take to go through all the new changes is was agreed by the meeting that the draft be discussed by the clubs in detail. The clubs would then send in their views and any changes to be drafted into a revised document.

At this point the Lancastrian expressed concern at the short period the new officers would serve before re-election (some 6 months). The South western proposed that a vote be taken to delay future elections to give some stability to the Breed Council.

The Lancastrian suggested that the Treasurer Secretary and Vice Chairman hold office until the AGM in 2005 with the Chairman and Assistant Secretary being elected in 2006.

The South Eastern proposed the suggestion which was seconded by the East Anglian.
The following vote   8 in favour none against.

Judging lists.
A3 List.
A discussion about the changes to the A3 criteria, with agreement that the changes do seem to be working. The
Midland requested that all clubs be sent a copy of the latest breed council criteria. The A3 criteria will be included on the agenda for the next meeting.
It was also agreed that the breed councils judging list criteria be sent to the dog press for publication. The Lancastrian proposed that Mrs Clarice Masterson be asked to act as the publicity agent for the breed council.
The South Eastern asked if we could go direct to Dog World. It was agreed that the secretary would contact the breed note reporters and Dog World.
It was also suggested that the criteria, judges lists and minutes of breed council meetings be posted on the internet.
The South Eastern asked if the former secretary had been asked for the green assessment forms. The Vice Chairman stated that she had telephoned the secretary to check that the paperwork was correct. She had sent in the forms completed by herself.
The midlands asked if the delegates had been given two forms. The Vice Chairman said there had not been a second form. The Lancastrian produced a copy of the latest A2 procedure. OES Scotland ask if the breed council could rectify the problem.
The secretary will write to Mrs Wendy Sculthorp and confirm that the K.C. now has all the paperwork.
The Lancastrian stated that Mr Pete Coggins had sent his judging C.V.. to all breed clubs but had not passed the breed specifics which is required to progress to the A3 list. The secretary is to write and ask for a copy for the breed council.
It was proposed that Mrs Val Zaza resume the responsibility for the judges list and that the secretary would ask that judges send copies of their latest C V. to him. He would liaise with Mrs Zaza to check the A2 A3 criteria.
Clubs were reminded that the K.C. only required their C lists with the annual returns. The
Midland asked if all clubs had the latest criteria. The criteria will be checked and sent to all clubs with the judging lists.

Auditor.
Mr David Sutton proposed by the Lancastrian seconded by the South Eastern accepted by the meeting.

Items Reserved.
The Lancastrian proposed that Mr Ray Owen be elected as breed liaison to the K.C. seconded by the East Anglian. Accepted by the meeting.
It was proposed that judges should not be allowed to accept C.C appointments in less than a two year period. Mr Ray Owen suggested using the bread liaison meeting to raise this matter. The motion was proposed by OES Wales and seconded by the South Western. All members were in favour and Mr Owen will raise the issue at his next meeting.
OES wales requested that consideration be given to a Champions class. OES Scotland suggested that the Champions class would not go forward for the CC. The South Western thought the winner should challenge the best dog and bitch. South Eastern thought this would demean the C.C if the C.C winners were then beaten by the Champion class winner for best in show. OES Scotland felt we needed to find a way around these problems. The South Eastern thought the Champion dog and bitch should go forward for the C.C.
The secretary had received a telephone request for people to man the OES stand at Discover Dogs. The dates are the 22nd 23rd of November and the East Anglian agreed to co-ordinate the arrangements. The south Eastern said they would go back to their committee and see if they could help. Mrs Ronnie Burns will act as the contact.

OES Wales requested that the breed council set up a health survey. They had a sample form which is used by other breeds and this could be amended to suit our breed.
It was agreed that a letter would be sent to Dr Sampson asking if he would accept our breed and letters would then be sent to the member clubs for their input.

A.O.B.
The South Western suggested that clubs should try to maintain continuity in their delegates who attend.
The secretary gave out his new contact details with a e-mail address for breed council matters.